Prince Harry said that Camilla was “dangerous” and “left bodies in the street.”
Prince Harry didn’t believe for years that his mother, Princess Diana, was dead. He thought that her disappearance was “all part of a plan” and that she would ask him and his brother, Prince William, to join her. In an interview on 60 Minutes on Sunday, Harry told Anderson Cooper that he saw images of Diana dead in the car in the Pont d’Alma tunnel in Paris. Harry also talked about why he thought his stepmother, Queen Consort Camilla, was “dangerous.” He said that she had “left bodies in the street” during her rise in the royal family and had ties to the British media. Prince Harry says that other royals are “abusers,” but he still wants to make up with them.
It was the second big interview Harry had done on Sunday before his memoir, Spare, came out in English. Just like the first interview with the British TV station ITV, this one was full of shocking news. In his memoir, Harry talks about how his stepmother Camilla fought for acceptance in the British press after Diana’s death. He says, “I even wanted Camilla to be happy. If she was happy, she might be less dangerous.” “She was a bad person. She was their third child together. “After Diana died, she needed to fix her reputation,” Harry told Cooper about Camilla. Cooper asked Harry why Camilla was dangerous. He said, “Because she needs to fix her image, which makes her dangerous because she’s making connections in the British press.” Both sides were willing to share information with each other. And since her family was based on rank and she was on her way to becoming Queen Consort, people or bodies were going to be left on the street because of that…
“If you, as a family member, are told that being on the front page and having good headlines and stories written about you will improve your reputation or make it more likely that the British people will accept you as monarch, then that’s what you’re going to do.” Harry told Cooper that both he and William asked Charles not to marry Camilla. “We thought it wasn’t necessary. We thought it would hurt him more than help, and if he was with his person now, that should be enough. Why go to that much trouble if you don’t have to? We hoped that he would be happy. And we could tell that he was happy with her. So, it was OK at the time.” “I just couldn’t accept that she was gone for a long time,” Harry said of his mother Diana. “Well, part of me thinks she would never do this to us, but part of me also thinks this might all be part of a plan.” Harry thought, “She’ll call us, and we’ll go meet her, yeah.”
Cooper asked, “How long have you thought that?” “Years. A very long time. William and I also talked about it. He thought about the same things.” Harry said that he was “hugely hopeful” that Diana was still alive. He was eventually shown pictures of her dead body, which he called “proof that she was in the car.” She was hurt, and this is proof. And proof that the paparazzi who chased her into the tunnel were also taking pictures of her as she lay half-dead in the back seat of the car. “I could only see the back of my mother’s head as she slept in the back seat. There were even more horrible pictures, but I will always be grateful to (his private secretary) for keeping me from seeing those. Because those are the kinds of things that stay with you forever.” William and he had thought about looking into her death again. “Because it had so many holes and so many gaps. Which just didn’t add up and didn’t make sense.” Harry is still not sure he knows everything. “Neither does my brother, I think. I don’t think that’s the case. Um, do I need to know anything else? No. I don’t think much would be different.” Being a soldier made me feel like I was giving my pain a reason. I didn’t realize at the time that I was living on adrenaline, and that was true from the time I was 12 and found out that my mom had died until now. Harry said that he still felt “a lot of anger and blame” toward the British press for what had happened to his mother because of what they had done.
Harry also said that he had used psychedelics to help him deal with his grief in the wide-ranging 60 Minutes interview. “Ayahuasca, mushrooms, and psilocybin. “You really cared about them,” Cooper said. Harry said, “I would never suggest that people do this for fun.” “But if you do it with the right people and are going through a lot of loss, grief, or trauma, these things can help you heal… For me, they took away the fog, the haze, and the sadness of loss… They got rid of the idea I had that I had to cry to show my mother that I missed her. But all she really wanted was for me to be happy.” Harry also said that he wasn’t invited to fly with the other royals to Scotland on the day Queen Elizabeth died at Balmoral. “I asked my brother, ‘What do you have in mind?’ How will you and Kate get to the top?’ “Then, a couple of hours later, you know, all of the family members who live in the Windsor and Ascot area got on a plane together,” Harry said. “A plane with between 12 and 16 seats.” “Why didn’t you get on that plane? Harry asked Cooper. Harry replied, “I wasn’t asked.”
Harry told Cooper that he had gone to Balmoral, where Princess Anne had met him. He wondered if it would be “a good idea” to see his grandmother’s dead body. “And I was like, ‘What do you know? You can do this; you can do it. You—you need to say goodbye.’ So, I went upstairs, took off my coat, walked in, and just spent some time alone with her… She had gone to her room. I was, in fact, very happy for her. Because she was done living. She’d done everything she could in life, and her husband was waiting for her. And they are both laid to rest together.” “I’d found the love of my life.” Harry told Cooper that he loved William “deeply,” despite the fights he describes in Spare, the arguments and briefings he says were done against him, and all the stories he tells that make his older brother look bad. Between us, there has been a lot of pain, especially in the last six years. Nothing I’ve ever written or included has ever been meant to hurt my family. But it does paint a full picture of how things were when we were growing up. It also puts to rest the idea that my wife somehow ruined the relationship between my two brothers… We both went through a traumatic event that was very similar, but we dealt with it in very different ways. Cooper asked Harry if he was talking or texting with William. Harry said that he wasn’t. “But I’m looking forward to the day when we can find peace.” He also hasn’t talked to King Charles in “a while.”
Harry talked about how the media first talked about Meghan Markle. “The fact that she was black, divorced, biracial, and had a Black mother, and that she was an American actress. These are just four of the most common stereotypes, which makes the British press go crazy. He also said that this was true of the royal family. “You know, my family reads the tabloids. It’s set up—when everyone gets together for breakfast. So, even if you walk around saying you don’t believe it, it’s still making an impression on you. So, if you judge someone based on a stereotype right away, it’s very hard to get over that. And a big part of it for the family, the British press, and many other people is that they say, “He’s changed. She is probably a witch. He’s different.’ Rather than saying, “Yeah, I did change, and I’m glad I did.” Because instead of getting drunk, falling out of clubs, and doing drugs, I’d found the love of my life and could start a family with her. “The thing that scares me the most is when the past comes back to haunt me,” Harry told Cooper. “I was very worried that the end result, which was that I lost my mother when I was 12, could easily happen to my wife again.” “There comes a time when silence is betrayal,” Harry said about the palace’s decision not to say anything about Jeremy Clarkson’s Sun column in which he imagined Meghan being pelted with poop. Harry criticized “a tabloid media that literally radicalizes its readers, which could then hurt my family, my wife, and my children.” Harry told Cooper that he couldn’t see himself going back to the royal family full-time. “No. Harry told Cooper, “I don’t see that happening.”
“The ball is very much in their (the royal family’s) court, but Meghan and I have kept saying that we will apologize openly for anything we did wrong, but when we ask for details or anything, no one gives them to us. There needs to be a productive conversation that stays private and doesn’t get out.” Cooper replied, “Well, how do we know we can trust you? How do we know you won’t talk about what we say in an interview?” Harry said, “It all started when they told lies every day about my wife to the point that my wife and I had to leave our country.” When Cooper said that the situation was like “Game of Thrones without dragons,” Harry said, “I don’t watch that show, but there are definitely dragons. Again, this is the British press, the third party. So, in the end, if it weren’t for the British press, we’d probably still be a pretty broken family, like a lot of them are. But there is no doubt that a family is at the center of it all. I really can’t wait for that family element to come back. I look forward to getting to know my brother better. I’m looking forward to getting to know my father and other family members.”